First Question on Divorce and Remarriage:

 

Dear Dr. Lyles,

 

   You, have really helped me so much, and God Bless you for your prayers and support. When I wrote my autobiography I explained that after 23 years of a horrible marriage my first wife left me for her boyfriend she dated him before we were married. When I remarried I married a divorced woman. When you read the Bible it clearly states you should not marry a divorced woman or you commit adultery. One of strong points before when I was living with my first wife was I had no fear of death. The reason being even though I had a miserable life I felt right with the Lord. I faced death in many forms when I was working construction I had to walk on high beams. At times I would be as high as 250 feet off of the ground. Almost every job I was on someone was killed in some sort of accident, or severely injured.

 

   When you fear the loss of your immortal soul there is no fear as great. In my youth I have had three guns pointed at me not counting one man who was drawing a gun out of his glove box to shoot me. I understand once you are a Christian in your heart you have a[n] insatiable desire to become Holy just as Jesus was Holy so actually to commit adultery is really out of the question for a Christian. To a Christian it is the same as dope or any other addicting substance.

 

   My wife and I talked it over and we have decided to sleep in separate rooms. Since we are both older it is not a burden for us. We now understand that we are doing what Jesus wants us to do. We can still take care of each other and keep our commitment of love and stay Holy. Since we both feel in our Hearts that the Second Coming of Jesus can come at any time. We want to be ready to fly with him into the sky. On the other hand we are older and death can happen at any heartbeat. Either way we are preparing ourselves to meet our Savior Jesus Christ.

 

   In coming to this revaluation we both have done some soul searching and praying. Our lives have been overtaken by our Loving God and we are so thankful. I hope to be able to finish this lesson and e-mail it to you soon.

 

Our Love and Prayers,

God Bless

 

 

Dear couple,

 

You are responsible before God for your actions.  I don't know how much you have studied the Bible before you decided to move into different rooms, but I think you are making an unbiblical decision and a poor marital decision.  Had you made a decision before marriage, not to marry I might have agreed, but you are now a married couple, if you have committed adultery you have already committed the sin and 1 Corinthians 7:1f indicate married people should act like married people.  This passage is describing exactly your situation, you may for a season separate for spiritual matters, but (the indication is, that this should not be a long separation) because of "burning" in another translation, will cause one the other or both of you to stumble.

 

James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.  If you have told one lie, you have done the equivalent of adultery or if you have committed adultery, you have lied.  If you break one law, you have broken all of them.

 

Biblical passages

 

Matthew 5:31-33 "And it was said, 'Whoever sends his wife away, let him give her a certificate of divorce';  5:32 but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the cause of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.  5:33 “Again, you have heard that the ancients were told, 'You shall not make false vows, but shall fulfill your vows to the Lord.' “

 

When you married you decided "before God and this host of witnesses..." before God you promised you would act like a married couple.  There is an exception in this passage for porneia in the Greek or fornication in the English and translated unchastity [NASB95] in this passage.  Technically, when a husband or wife has sex with anyone else (porneia is more inclusive than adultery and includes male, female or animal and may even include pornography. ) they have broken the marriage vow and the other is free to marry another according to this passage.

 

I have a good friend, she was born the same day as my daughter and I treated her as my daughter.  For two years we ate lunch almost every day.  For about two years she was single.  Her husband moved out after having three children with her and moved in with a 17 year old in their church.  (he was the assistant-pastor)  When he came to his sense about 8 months later, after a million of her tears, he called and asked if he could come home.  She said, "Once" (this was the entire conversation.)  He moved into her little apartment with their three children.  [He joined the Army shortly after 9/11 and she spent another 8 months as a single mom, making it about two years total.]  It took years, the Army and a secular job, but they put their marriage back together and he is now the pastor of the same church.

 

When I asked her "Why did you allow him to come home" She said, "I was a married woman, I didn't want my children to grow up with "another" dad, and I knew I would remarry one day.  I have honored my marriage vows, I did what was right and I'm going to let God take care of him"

 

I attended a seminar in Seminary with five Presidents of the five GARB colleges and Seminaries in the USA.  The question came up on marriage that completely changed my point of view.  There were five men, and five positions on divorce and remarriage.  They used the same verses but one said, if you marry, he has a heart attack on the marriage platform she can't remarry.  There was a continuum all the way to if he leaves you, he has deserted you and you can remarry.  The Bible passages are not clear at all.  You read 10 true scholars and exegetes and you will probably get 10 different opinions.

 

One last illustration:  I met a 23 Year old young lady with two children that were pre-teens.  I never did figure out how young she was when she became a mother.  He was a crack head.  She made it clear she married as a virgin and held marriage in high estate, but married against her parent’s wishes, very young.  He committed porneia and she left him in about a half-heart beat.  She stayed when he beat her, did drugs around her and the children and abused her, but when he broke the Biblical command she was GONE.  She was single, figured she would be single the rest of her life.  She was one of the godliest women I knew and my secretary at school for years.  Her daughters were in my class and grew and are now about out of the house.  She met a man when she was well into her thirties on one of her daughters’ high school senior trips.  For several years they fought over whether it was right or wrong to marry.  They read many books, talked to many people for over a year and were married last summer while I was in China.  I am thrilled as are her pastor and the principal of the school all have studied this topic and have advanced theological degrees from different denominations (than mine) and hundreds of people in the church they attended.

 

Matthew 19:3 – 10 “And some Pharisees came to Him, testing Him, and saying, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any cause at all?"  19:4 And He answered and said, "Have you not read, that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female,  19:5 and said,' For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh'?  19:6 "Consequently they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate."  19:7 They said to Him, "Why then did Moses command to give her a certificate of divorce and send her away?"  19:8 He said to them, "Because of your hardness of heart, Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but from the beginning it has not been this way.  19:9 "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery."  19:10 The disciples said to Him, "If the relationship of the man with his wife is like this, it is better not to marry.’"

 

A mystery, two become one.  Before marriage I was Don and Karen was Karen.  Once we married, and certainly now, we are and will always be Don and Karen.  My aunt was married to Doug for 25 years almost to the day.  She is now married to John.  I still have to triple check my mouth when talking to her that I don't call him Doug.  Two become one, probably in more ways than this, but certainly in this area.  You are and will always be ** and **.

 

1CO 7:1 Now concerning the things about which you wrote, it is good for a man not to touch [the context and especially vs. 2 -3, shows this is talking about intercourse]  a woman.
1CO 7:2 But because of immoralities, let each man have his own wife,
[you have your own wife to avoid immoralities] and let each woman have her own husband. [for the same reason.]
1CO 7:3 Let the husband fulfill his duty to his wife,
[this is a biblical command, and there is no clause for twice married people, if you are married it is your job to have intercourse.] and likewise also the wife to her husband.
1CO 7:4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does; and likewise also the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.
1CO 7:5 Stop depriving one another, except by agreement for a time that you may devote yourselves to prayer,
[have an agreement for a season] and come together [this is a command, not a suggestion] again lest Satan tempt you because of your lack of self-control.  But this I say by way of concession, not of command.


1CO 7:7 Yet I wish that all men were even as I myself am. However, each man has his own gift from God, one in this manner, and another in that. 
[As a twice married man, you obviously don't have the gift of celibacy, then according to Scripture; don't live like you have this gift.]
1CO 7:8 ¶ But I say to the unmarried and to widows that it is good for them if they remain even as I.
1CO 7:9 But if they do not have self-control, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn. 
1CO 7:10 But to the married I give instructions, not I, but the Lord, that the wife should not leave her husband 
You are now married, stay that way.  Is it more godly to divorce a second time, to do God's will?  I think not.  It is not natural to act like single people while married. 

HEB 13:4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled; for fornicators and adulterers God will judge.  You are married, "let the marriage bed be held in honor." 

 

GEN 2:23 And the man said, "This is now bone of my bones, And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because she was taken out of Man."
GEN 2:24 For this cause a man shall leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.
GEN 2:25 And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed.

 

It is your marriage and each marriage is unique, but you are setting yourselves up for years of unnecessary heartache.  God made Adam and Eve to enjoy each other for a lifetime.  Many men in the old testament had two or more wives at the same time, God doesn't even indicate this is adultery.  In fact, you will be hard pressed to find a command to abstain from bigamy, although 1 Corinthians 7 indicates celibacy is preferred to even marriage the NT does not support bigamy at all.  You are breaking the clear command of 1 Corinthians and don't be surprised if you continue like this for a long season one of you stumbles.

 

All the scriptures on divorce in the Bible.

 

DEU 22:19 and they shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver and give it to the girl's father, because he publicly defamed a virgin of Israel. And she shall remain his wife; he cannot divorce her all his days.


DEU 22:29 then the man who lay with her shall give to the girl's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall become his wife because he has violated her; he cannot divorce her all his days.


DEU 24:1 "When a man takes a wife and marries her, and it happens that she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found some indecency in her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out from his house,
DEU 24:3 and if the latter husband turns against her and writes her a certificate of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out of his house, or if the latter husband dies who took her to be his wife,


ISA 50:1 Thus says the Lord, "Where is the certificate of divorce, By which I have sent your mother away? Or to whom of My creditors did I sell you? Behold, you were sold for your iniquities, And for your transgressions your mother was sent away.


JER 3:8 "And I saw that for all the adulteries of faithless Israel, I had sent her away and given her a writ of divorce, yet her treacherous sister Judah did not fear; but she went and was a harlot also.


MAL 2:16 "For I hate divorce, "says the Lord, the God of Israel, "and him who covers his garment with wrong," says the Lord of hosts.”So take heed to your spirit, that you do not deal treacherously."


MAT 5:31 "And it was said, 'Whoever sends his wife away, let him give her a certificate of divorce';


MAT 19:3  And some Pharisees came to Him, testing Him, and saying, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any cause at all?"


MAT 19:7 They said to Him, "Why then did Moses command to give her a certificate of divorce and send her away?"


MAT 19:8 He said to them, "Because of your hardness of heart, Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but from the beginning it has not been this way.


MAR 10:2  And some Pharisees came up to Him, testing Him, and began to question Him whether it was lawful for a man to divorce a wife.


MAR 10:4 And they said, "Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away."

Facts:

 

David had at least 19 wives.  He was a friend of God.

 

Solomon had 1000 women in his harem:  wives, concubines and other women, God never said a word (although the pagan women brought Solomon to pagan worship instead of the true God) that having a 1000 women was wrong.

 

Be very careful, very careful indeed, in the path you have chosen.  It is not Biblical; it is not God's pattern.  Don't be surprised if one or the other can't live with this arrangement in months or years, as it is not physiologically or psychologically healthy.

 

Selah,

don

 

Second letter on Divorce and Remarriage:

 

Question on a separate issue:  A friend, who has been divorced for around ten years, wonders if it is correct to remarry.  His wife was caught in adultery and ended up marring the other guy.  The church tried to correct the problem.  However, “it feels so good it must be right”.  My friend is quite concerned about maintaining a righteous life.  My take has been that since adultery is the root, and there is no hope of reconciliation, he is free to remarry.

 

Care to enter the fray?

 

db

 

 

Years ago I read a book by Guy Duty on Divorce and Remarriage which is still one of the classics on this topic.  Further, I know several couples that have, like your friend, studied this out for months and years and eventually married and have a good life together.  Further in seminary we had a "President's Day" where all the General Association of Regular Baptists GARBC Presidents of Colleges would meet at our campus for a day of prayer and preaching.

 

We put this question on Divorce and Remarriage to the five leaders of our five institutions; some of the most educated and godly men I knew at the time and there were five opinions, from if you marry and your wife dies on the way to the wedding suite, you can't remarry for the rest of your life, to just have one at a time.  They USED THE SAME VERSES, Mostly Matthew 5 and 19! 

 

I live about a block from a couple I know well.  I knew her well before she divorced, knew them single, married them and glad I did 10 years ago.  In both cases adultery was the issue (not between themselves) in brokenness they began talking years later married in a beautiful back yard.  We playfully yelled at each other as we met at the stop sign this morning, me walking and him in his shiny red truck.  Good people, good marriage; they are both much happier the second time around.

 

Divorce is the sin according to Malachi.  Hey, Exodus has rules on how to treat your plural wives.  (Don't think I will bring this up in polite conversation) but I believe you can find these verses in EXO 21:10 "If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights.  21:11 "And if he will not do these three things for her, then she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money. (The assumption is that she is free to marry again.)

 

God expects adult men and women to have a sexual partner.  Married people are commanded to "fulfill their duty."  (1 Corinthians 7:3)  Sometimes we forget God made sex.  He made Adam and Eve and marriage and said it was "very good."  He told married couples to go out and replenish the earth.

 

David had at least 19 women including these ten concubines. 2 Samuel 20:3  Then David came to his house at Jerusalem, and the king took the ten women, the concubines whom he had left to keep the house, and placed them under guard and provided them with sustenance, but did not go in to them. So they were shut up until the day of their death, living as widows.

 

1 Kings 1:4 And the girl was very beautiful; and she became the king's nurse and served him, but the king did not cohabit with her.  [It was understood David would have intercourse with the women close to him, and mentions both his concubines and Abishag the Shunammite as abnormalities.]

 

Regarding Solomon, 1 Kings 11:3 And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines, and his wives turned his heart away.

 

My understanding of Jesus' words is that Eve was created for Adam and God expects one man for one woman: this is the ideal norm.  But God is also aware of the hardness of men's hearts and has rules for more than one wife, for divorce, for rape and other sexual differences to the one man-one woman rule. 

 

I believe it is better to marry than burn. (1 Corinthians 7:2, 7:9, 2 Corinthians 11:29)  I may be wrong, but I've decided it is better to be wrong on the comfortable side, than be wrong banging holes in walls and hear God say in heaven, "I told you how may times not to burn, how many times did I need to tell you?"

 

Selah.